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've been defeated on this. what has to change is their attitude on this. >> oh, is john boehner going to be pissed when he finds out mitt romney lost the election. if they let him out of that time machine, he might be something. the thing i find humorous about this, as well as about the whole issue of taxes and whether or not we should repeal the bush tax cuts, is that republicans do seem to have decided that the election that just happened didn't really happen. and that they are going to propose pretty much all of mitt romney's ideas as their negotiating starting point. well, we just -- >> we needed paul ryan actually to help get the job done. >> even having paul ryan talk about it. it's amazing. they decided while mitt romney lost the election, his ideas, they think won. i don't know how they get there. >> i feel like what they're trying to do is say, we lost, never mind but we're going to keep doing what we do. if we keep saying it enough, maybe -- >> i read that -- john boehner's op-ed pretty carefully. here's one thing he said. he said there are three ways to take down obama care
the table from the democrats' perspective? >> absolutely. the thing is is that john boehner and the republicans, the last time we went around these negotiations, remember it was june of 2011, on the debt ceiling negotiations, the president and the speaker played golf, and there were all those grand bargain talks behind closed doors. republicans tried to put it on the table back then, and democrats said, absolutely no way. and i think they're going to get a similar response this time. remember, it was just a few weeks ago when john boehner after the election essentially said, there's nothing we can do about obama care. it's going into effect next year. people are going to have to start enrolling, those exchanges are going to have to get up and running. he saw a revolt among his house republicans and republicans across the united states, just for saying it. now john boehner is doing a little backtracking. he wrote in the cincinnati enquirer, his hometown newspaper, the president's health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our natio
among house speaker john boehner's tax-resistant republicans. >> i don't want to prejudge any of this. the bottom line, we can't have a sequestration, we have to show the world we're adults. the election is over. >> reporter: and president obama won. vowing to raise taxes on the wealthy. another republican saxby chambliss of georgia, in a recent interview, says he's no longer bound by a pledge not to raise taxes. >> the pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now but times have changed significantly, and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> reporter: but raising taxes is only one-half of a deficit deal. republicans want democrats to raise the eligibility age for medicare. >> i want entitlement reforms. republicans put revenue on the table, democrats always promise to cut spending. i'm looking for more revenue for entitlement reform before the end of the year. >> reporter: so far democrats sound lex flexible. >> we've got to make sure there is seamless coverage of afordable health coverage for every a
piece is does john boehner have enough running room to strike a deal involving some new revenue. i still am of the belief that the vote in the house, which will be a cliff hanger no matter what happens amongst the leaders in the white house, it will be a tough vote. i think it will be a democratic buildup than a republican buildup. but there's no doubt that if eric cantor is willing to at least vote on a deal that has new revenue, that that is a huge paradigm shift. and i think that gives us all hope, although there's still a long way to go, that there can be a deal that has the president has said for a long time, a balanced approach. >> but ruth, what are the democrats willing to give, because there are some democrats, some of the more liberal democrats who are saying let's go over the cliff. that gives us more leverage. >> there's extremes in both parties that say let's go over the cliff. grover norquist was saying it the other day. i just want to -- before we get to the democrats, i want to be debbie downer for a minute on the republican side. i totally agree with mark. we're hearing
appointed, new right young thing of the party and listening to john boehner's comments when asked if he's the leader of the party, there's disagreement in the party and bears remembering every time we have done this in the past election cycles, thought object who the likely candidates were, almost none of them ended up being the likely candidate. mitt romney is an exception and perceived to be a credible front-runner of 2012 and tim pawlenty. >> experience of '08? >> yeah. my point is -- >> traction. >> we project forward based on who's the luminaries now. it often is someone we're not looking at under current dynamics and doing 18 or 19 i guess the likelihood of one of the 20 the people -- >> primaries again. now let's talk about the fiscal cliff and house and senate leaders expected to meet with the president next week and hopefully negotiations will continue. staffers reportedly have made little progress over the last week. politico is writing this saying that the gop's opening offer, the sources said would freeze the bush era tax rates, change the inflation can clated for entitlemen
negotiations are off to a bumpy start. house speaker john boehner wrote an op-ed yesterday calling for the president's health care law to be part of the fiscal talks. the white house told the "huffington post" the president opposes that. joining me now from washington, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker and neil irwin. welcome to both of you. happy holiday. >> happy holidays, alex. >> kristen, politico said the negotiations are off to a rough start. what do you see as the likelihood of a deal before the end of the year? >> alex, i think they are off to a relatively rough start. president obama expected to invite congressional leaders back to the white house next week after the holiday, but it seems at this point aides are trying to hammer out the beginnings of the deal. republicans seem to be digging in their heels on the issue of taxes, saying they don't want to see the bush era tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. of course, that is something the democrats have been adamant about. so they're stuck on this old issue of taxes. and also stuck on the issue of entit
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of ideas around. one thing that is giving folks hope, the fact that house speaker john boehner and eric cantor seem to be working more in lock step now than they were during the summer of 2011. if that holds, it really could help the house of representatives to get on 3w0rd of some type of idea. >> we've heard from chairman bernanke and others. how much of a factor will the fed and the ceos of all these major companies be as we get closer to this major deadline? >> one of the questions is how do people react where all these tax increase, all these spending cuts take effect. if there's no deal in the middle of december, say, do we start to see some real impacts? do companies start slowing their capital spending plans, do they start holding up on hiring. there's a risk that there could be economic damage even if there is a deal by january 1. maybe we haven't reached full agreement yet but we're close. we're almost there. i think having a sense that there's momentum and things are going the right direction is important for business confidence and getting through this without any economic d
or, b, limit deductions. but you know what the speaker of the house said the other day, john boehner, he said he's willing to do the latter. now you just saw what chambliss said. so is the era of grover and his you ubiquitous pledge over? >> no. i think grover deserves a great deal of credit for keeping that pledge to the american people and holding republicans' feet to the fire. gregg: is it over now? >> no. we have a different set of circumstances. perhaps what the democrats should have had is their own grover norquist on spending, and we wouldn't be in the mess we find ourselves in. but here's the reality, gregg.me for the status quo. nothing's changed since two months ago. we have basically the same makeup in government. obama controls the white house, we control the house, democrats controls the senate. but guess what? the american people don't expect a status quo in governance. gregg: there's a recent rasmussen poll and, juan, i want you to take a look as well, 57% agree that raising taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year is a good idea. can you put that up on the scre
john boehner needs to go. i think it needs to be a kevin mccarthy as well as in the senate. you know, we need new leadership. marco rubio would be a great senate minority leader, and it's bold, but we need the change in washington d.c. heather: but in the meantime, we have what we have right now, we are just a matter of weeks away, so what do you think they need to do, and do you think that president obama will take the lead with dwoarks this time around? -- with negotiations this time around? >> absolutely. and he has started to take the lead. he's met with congressional leaders, the ones that we have, and i don't think that those are going to change, and we're going to see another meeting the in just a few days. but what i think really needs to happen is that republicans are finally going to have to stop letting grover norquist and his pledge hold our economy hostage. and the great thing that we have seen in the last few days is that some republicans are finally saying, guess what? i'm actually going to put the country first instead of some pledge i took 20 years ago, for example,
reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, nancy pelosi will be serious. going over the cliff doesn't make any sense. >> we all remember the t.a.r.p. vote that you reference. that really didn't come to a resolution until the markets -- i would argue -- scared washington. i wonder how important you think that is this time? do stocks need to fall before the two sides really get committed at the table? >> that is a terrific question. that's the main question. in two days we lost 1,600 points in the markets. it took us a lot longer time to come back and recover. i sat there and stared defeat in the face. we can't do it now. the markets will respond to certainty. that's what congress needs to give american business and american people. certainty about taxes. certainty about spending in congress and certainty about our commitment to lower the debt. >> how do you argue that you are considering all elements of reform if in fact you're going to stick by the norquist pledge. is there anything wrong with as senator graham has said with saying i made that pledge back then but my job is to be a senator
. that is just moments ago. we'll play for you what john boehner had to say about that. we'll talk to a key democrat about why the party doesn't want to deal on that front, all that. bill: you've got to wonder if it's not a part of the deal how does it pass the house. also republicans now countering the controversial d.r.e.a.m. act for young illegal immigrants. they have a plan of their own and one of the bill's cosponsors is live here to explain that moments away. martha: yes, she is. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. bill: breaking news from the hill moments ago. republican leaders on the house putting their cards on the table when it com
want to see congress work together on this. president obama says he wants to. john boehner says he wants to. there you have the titans of industry in new york with their rich, mahogany furniture all saying we need to solve this crisis. yet here we are a few weeks away and we're still both sides sticking to their negotiations. there hasn't been a lot on what specifically would you do. this is going to be tight. >> it's going to be tight and everybody should brace themselves before the fiscal cliff comes the fiscal roller coaster and it's going to look dark before either it's totally black as senator mccain likes to say or before it gets done. my bet actually is on getting things done, but i have to say what's depressing about listening to chairman bernanke is how many times we've heard those words before about the last fiscal crisis, whether it's debt ceiling or something else, it really is time for congress to show it can get something done. >> this seems to poll very well, this bipartisanship. you know it. how come there's such difficulty both sides really not willing to nudge off
are off to a rocky start with house speaker john boehner writing an editorial saying he thinks the president's health care plan should be on the table. that is certainly something that both sides will go to the mat over, but i think there's a lot of pressure to get a deal done by the first of the year for the reason that you just cited. because if they don't, this will have a big impact according to a lot of economists on the economy and they just don't want to see that happen and bear the brunt of that. >> understandably so. quickly, the president's plans for today are what? is he there in the house behind you or elsewhere? >> reporter: he is in the house behind me. quiet day at the white house with his traditional thanksgiving dinner with the first family. i'm sure there will be all the fixings on the table, turkey, ham, a lot of different types of pies. yesterday president obama bardened a thanksgiving turkey cobbler and alternate gobbler and they went to a local food bank to deliver food there. president obama today delivering his weekly address wishing all americans a happ
and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal than the senate gop conference. so that's the sort of bad news. while we hear a lot of this going forward and it seems to be pos tish, when you get down to the nitty-gritty and aides and those chose to president obama, there's not been a lot of movement on the taxive of what to do. republicans don't want to touch that. democrats want that. they feel they have a mandate from the election. that is the issue we said is going to be the linchpin for the last three months. it continues to be there. there is no movement on that. and until there's movement on how to come up with that type of revenue, 250 and above, we're going to keep having the same conversation about ongoing negotiations, talking points from both sides. >> luke russert getting down to the nitty-gritty. stephanie, let's get down to the markets. they put our chances of going over the cliff at about 5%. so why is the market freaking out? >> you know the market always wants to be a bull but it doesn't matter what side of the aisle to sit on you. have to agree we're n
deductions. and this morning, house speaker john boehner said he'd reinforced that position to congressman cole. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it'll hurt small businesses, it'll hurt our economy, it's why it's not the right approach. we're willing to put revenue on the table as long as we're not raising rates. >> brown: despite the president's talk of changing minds, "politico's" manu raju says that privately, house republicans think they can win this fight. >> right now the republican leadership feels pretty confident that they have most of their folks in line. they all generally support keeping tax rates low for virtually for every single income group. they do not want to see incomes increase for that top tax bracket. >> brown: meanwhile, on the senate floor, minority leader mitch mcconnell criticized democrats for putting social security off limits in any deficit deal. >> as for social security, the only thing we hear from why in the world wouldn't they want to talk about the fact that this vital program started spending out more th
that the problem is that you have john boehner, president and mitch mcconnell negotiating with the exact same congress that they had when they couldn't make a deal the last time. so i think until the personnel change, i'm not sure you can get a deal. >> and juan kessler, the fact checker for "the washington post," has reported that, you know, you have to come from, like, some point point. you have to have a negotiating point to start with. he said democrats and republicans haven't even agreed on a baseline yet. they're about $3 trillion apart because of ending the wars, medicare, other cuts. so how do you come to some agreement in what is a numbers game really if you don't even have a number to start with? >> i think one of the things we'll see happen here is the idea of a grand bargain, of one deal that gets all this stuff averted between now and -- it's not going to happen. it doesn't seem that there's anything that would suggest that they'll be able to get to that point of putting this all together into one deal. so what will happen is they'll figure out some solution that gets us past the
campaign funds to buy jewelry for a mysteries and remodel his house. in a letter to speaker john boehner he said i am aware of the on going federal investigation into my activities. i am doing my best to cooperate with the investigators and accept responsibility for my mistakes. they are mine and mine alone. none of us isee tune from our share of short come eupblgs or human frai hume trail tees. gregg: explain what happens to his seat. >> reporter: we expect to have a date for a special election in four days. pat quinn will make sure th the election is fair and as economical as possible for the taxpayers who have to foot the bill. that being to you. gregg: thanks very much. ainsley: back to the breaking developments an on benghazi. ambassador susan rice breaking her ten-week silence and defending her actions. when she said the attacks came from and anti-muslim film. >> i relied solely and scare leon the information provided to me by the intelligence community. i made clear that the information was preliminary, and that our investigations would give us th the definitive answers. ainsley: joi
place between just two people: house speaker john boehner and the president. boehner and the president spoke by phone on saturday, agreeing not to share details. but senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said today the g.o.p. wants the president to make the first move and issue a proposal to raise tax revenue and cut spending. >> this he's the only one who can lead his party to do something they wouldn't ordinarily do. to do what's actually needed now. >> reporter: prominent republicans are signaling they're now flexible on increasing tax revenue, with a few in the house and senate distancing themselves from that no tax increase pledge that many of them signed, a pledge created by lobbyist grover norquist. house majority leader eric cantor, senator lindsey graham of south carolina and senator saxby chambliss of georgia all said there could be an increase in tax revenue if democrats agreed to controlling the cost of medicare and medicaid. >> there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do it. but at the end of the day, nancy what's got to happen is whoever's right or wro
speaker john boehner and has said he's willing to put almost anything on the table except social security. he wants to deal with that separately next year, but republicans want all entitlements included in talks. they want the president to make the first move with an initial proposal. and the white house says it has not received a realistic proposal from republicans that would raise the kind of revenue president obama is seeking. >> susan mcginnis in washington this morning. thank you so much. >>> amid sky high approval ratings in the wake of superstorm sandy, new jersey governor chris christie said he will be seeking re-election next year. he said the preliminary damage from sandy is nearly $30 million. christie says he's in it for the long haul to help jersey recover. >>> coming up on the morning news, click and shop. cyber monday rings up record sales on what's expected to be the busiest online shopping day of the year. this is the morning news. [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of spl
the president has to say today? >> reporter: speaker john boehner just had a news conference on capitol hill and he expressed frustration because he is saying look, republicans put some tax revenues on the table but what they see the democratic side trying to pull entitlement reforms like medicare off the table. john boehner basically saying he thinks the spending situation is sort of a freight train that is coming at the nation right now. republicans senator mitch mism the leader in the senate -- mitch mcconnell blasted the president of saying he is doing is too much campaigning and not governing. take a listen. >> it is over. he won. congratulations. we have a hard deadline here however. and it is still, he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. this is the problem. if the president really wants to reach an dwreechlt he needs to be talking with members of his own party right here in washington trying to broker an agreement, not out there firing up crowds and giving speeches. >> reporter: now the bottom line when you listen to comments like that it is pretty clear both sid
and top republicans including house speaker john boehner are accelerating. but the white house must contend with members of his own party who are pushing back against proposals that significantly reshape entitlement programs like medicare and social security. white house press secretary jay carney said yesterday the president is open to compromise and should republicans make a realistic proposal on taxes, they will meet them halfway. >> math tells us that you can't get the kind of balanced approach that you need without having rates be part of the equation. we haven't seen a proposal that achieves that, a realistic proposal, that achieves that. the reality is, closing loopholes and ending deductions as an alternative to raising rates on the top earners, top 2%, those making over $250,000, sounds good, but you have to look at the actual contents of those proposals. >>> and a new poll shows the majority of americans do want compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. 67% say a deal should be a combination of spending cuts and tax increases. and if no deal is reached by the end of t
for boost®. >>> house speaker john boehner says the country can't afford obama care. joining me for today's strategy session our cnn contributor and democratic strategist donna brazile and senior kriblt tor and editor and chief of redstate.com, erick erickson. thanks for coming in especially on the day after thanksgiving. erick, i want to begin with you. house speaker john boehner wrote this "we can't afford to leave the president's health care law in tact. that's why i've been clear the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nation's massive debt challenge." where after this election does the house speaker if you will get the political capital to take this tact? >> well, at first, i have to point out, it's not just the day after thanksgiving, this is during the lsu game that donna and i are here. >> go tigers. >> arkansas. yes, the big game. now as to john boehner, the issue here is many of the states are opting out of state exchanges. there was a quirk when they passed the law nancy pelosi said you have to pass the law to find out what was in it, what was
said that both spending cuts and new revenue need to be on the table. house speaker john boehner said that obamacare should be fair game, also. we have a former rnc spokesperson and dnc spokesman. great to see you both. there is a lot of finger-pointing and blame. but the fact is, enough people voted on what has gotten us to this point. who steps up at this point? and has a chance to show leadership and get something done? >> i think the president is in the right position to do that. i am a little bit worried about speaker boehner's position, that's what the op-ed, saying obamacare should be on the table. one, the congressional budget office took a look, if you repealed obamacare entirely, it would cost $109 billion. so i don't think the speaker's put it on the table because it helps, i think he put it on there for positioning. but there is a problem there. the american people have had this debate. mitt romney maid the case that obamacare should be repealed and said it would be the first act. he made that case forcefully, in debates, ads, throughout the campaign. 40% of america greed
will be covered with 5,000 ornaments and it will be lit by house speaker, john boehner, doing the honors to power that tree on december 4th. so look forward to that. but pretty shot there. >> how would you like to deck kate that -- decorate that. >> yeah. >>> why a gas company president is defending a worker who caused the massive explosion in massachusetts. [chanting] >>> and what's happening in egypt after several days of violent clashes after the new leader's power grab. you know how much grandma wanted to be here for your fist christmas? you see grandma lives waaaay down here, and you live way up here. brian, your cousin, he's a little bit older than you, he lives here, in chicago. and your aunt lisa lives here, in baltimore. uncle earnie? waaay out in hawaii. but don't you worry, we will always be together for christmas. [ male announcer ] being together is the best part of the holidays and cheerios is happy to be part of the family. you just ate dallas! >>> well, clear skies for a few. a lot of fog for others. that dense fog advisory will go until 9:00 and it will be sunny. you can see tha
in elections in years to come. i think that they realize from john boehner the speaker of the house to mitch mcconnell somewhat in the senate. on down, that the kinds of extreme policies that we saw in the republican primary, mitt romney, rick santorum, michele bachmann et cetera those policies are not going to win over hispanics. they're not going to win over asian americans. >> jennifer: you are not going to see i predict a super pac that is a pro-choice republican super pac though, right? that's an issue they won't touch. >> i believe that abortion is an issue that they will not touch. they -- they saw what happens when you anger women voters in this country independents, republicans and democrats but abortion i think -- the republican party is not there yet. i don't know if they will ever get there. >> jennifer: well instead of republican moderates, shouldn't we just issue democratic cards to the membership, cards to the democratic party? i don't see how they're going to do it. you have mayor bloomberg's super
john boehner the former congressman jesse jackson junior prioritizes his health as the reason he is stepping down. he does acknowledge the investigation that dogged him. writing i have made my share of mistakes and aware of the ongoing federal investigation in my activities and doing my best to address the situation responsibly. cooperate with investigators and accept responsibility for my mistakes. they are my mistakes and mine alone. they talk about skimming campaign found remodel his house and buy expensive jewelry for a mist res. he was investigated by the investigating committee after being caught up in the blagojevich scandal. he met with businessmen who raise money for blagojevich if jackson were appointed to the senate seat vacated by president obama in 2008. >> they feel like they can do this [bleep] to do anything under the vague assurances, or something, then i'll [bleep] jesse junior. >> this is a long fall for a congressman initially thought to be a rising star on capitol hill. with terrific name recognition and invitation to address the national convention four year
jackson jr. has resigned. in a letter to house speaker john boehner, jackson cited his ongoing treatment for bipolar disorder, and admitted to, quote, my share of mistakes. there's a house committee investigation into his dealings with rod blagojevich and a probe into possible misuse of campaign money. >>> the violence in syria continues today. at least 40 people were killed in the town of aleppo. this is not the first time this hospital has been shut. earlier this year an artillery shell hit a maternity ward. >>> secretary clinton and president obama and mahmoud morsi brokeringed a cease-fire. no sirens, have you heard any? >> reporter: no, that's right, alex, all quiet, no sirens here. there were a couple earlier in the day in the south. they turned out to be false alarms. the cease-fire went into effect 9:00 last night local time, which is about 18 hours ago. so it's a hopeful sign. of course, it's early days yet. when the cease-fire was announced yesterday, the palestinians in gaza were ecstatic. there was celebration, thousands of people in the streets firing guns into the air for c
to be up for negotiation. house speaker john boehner wrote an op-ed. the president's health care law, massive expensive unworkable at a time when the national debt sees the size of our economy, and we can't afford it and we can't afford to leave it intact and clear that the law has stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nagsal debt challenge. where is it going. >> nowhere, he's right about everything he writes about, but it's a disaster, no way it's going to be stopped. it was an issue that the country decided this election, obama staked a claim and he won. the supreme court was the only other way it was going to be stopped. it wasn't stopped, it's not going to be stopped now. and the idea that to oversight committees in the house could stop this is absurd. look, i think it's right. it's going to be disastrous and should be cut back or dismantled, but elections have consequences and this is one. so, i think it's not on the table and republicans can pretend it is, but it's not. there's a lot of other stuff on the table and that's rates and i think if you want to p
and personality of president, john boehner and senator reed and senator mcconnell. what's on the table here is of course this week you see more republicans saying we're not going to hold to this grover norquist idea, norquist being the man everybody who is a republican has to sign a no tax increase -- >> chris: they've already sign it had. >> this week you had saxby chambliss from georgia joining people like john mccain, tom coburn and others and 12 members of the house who say republicans have to be willing to -- we did not win the election. the president's back in office, you have to make a deal. the president needs to deal too. this sometimes doesn't get attention but you heard nancy pelosi, harry reid, they expect a deal along with charlie wrangle before the deadline because the unions are advertising say don't you dare cut our programs badly. you see it advertising from the republican side. both sides are under pressure for a deal now and they're going to make it. >> chris: that's an optimistic view. bill, let me ask you, you can respond to sister chaney about this. one idea that was f
had shown up at the office of house speaker john boehner today to begin negotiating, jay carney said he could not account for secretary geithner's precise whereabouts. shep. >> shepard: james rosen live at the white house. thanks. worries about the so-called fiscal cliff are not doing much good for our 401(k)s. stocks were down today. the dow lost almost 90. nasdaq fell 9. s & p 500 down 7. analysts say investors are concerned about whether these lawmakers will get together and reach a deal. those worries overshadowed a couple of positive developments. gerri willis is here. we got a report showing that americans are, i don't know, feeling better and so much of this is about how we feel about the economy. >> oh, yeah. that's right. investors may not like it, but consumers love it. their confidence, the highest level in many, many months. still below 90, which is really the point at which you see a really strong and robust economy. but the fact that consumer confidence has been doing so much better, it's very important. now, here is possibly a source of their optimism. 20% of consumers
and dennis kneale, i love you guys. aids activists strip down outside john boehner's office yesterday. they were promptly arrested, protesting cuts to the medicaid. do you think this was an effective tactic? what do you think? >> what's next, lap dances from diabetes sufferers? what bothers me is every group that worries about cuts can go protest. at what point do they say i realize we have to cut back somewhere. >> that will never happen. never. >> i'm more concerned about getting naked in front of boehner. no offense, mr. speaker, but, oh. the spray tan? >> they do not look spray tanned. >> they did pick some of the more attractive -- >> i have to say, you know, i think you need to -- >> 35% of the people should be obese, but they are not. it's not representative. >> next-under-par, a web entrepreneur lawns -- launched a dating site for travelers. meetattheairport.com has 20,000 members worldwide. >> all of them are men. men are the only ones who would want a short term meeting in an airport. >> scary. >> i love the idea. i think it's great. because what are you going to do in the a
or a republican, this should be priority number one, it's when john boehner had the new freshman tea partiers come in in 2010 and facing the debt ceiling, he characterized the first adult moment for the new freshmen congressmen and i think this is the second adult moment. can we get beyond party politics and rigid ideology and come with a compromise that will benefit the american people? we need both to look seriously at spending cuts and revenue generation for the country right now. >> all right, so let's-- >> and let's put a couple of ideas on the table and angela, i'm surprised you would say obamacare should not be on the block, and what do you think should be on the block? what kind of-- if we're talking about spending here, where would you want to make cuts, angela? >> well, first of all, we should cut the wasteful spending that we have with the department of education, with the department of energy, i can go down the list, but rick, the reason why i don't want obamacare on the table. it will politicize this process, in 2010 congress had referendum on obamacare and that's why the republicans
in john boehner putting together a good package. he is very conciliatory in his language. >> i do am opposed to raising tax rates but i do believe we can close loopholes. >> they have to go up real tax rates or effective tax rates. there are ways to do that. secondly we have to close significant loopholes. martha: all right. what are we hearing here? are he starting to hear a little bit of common ground? a high level meeting as you just heard on the fiscal cliff is expected this week at the white house with the president getting involved. nobody knows exactly when that will take place and who all of the players will be. we'll talk to senator sessions. bill: listen carefully on the language as we work through this. nearly all americans will see their taxes go higher if congress does not reach a deal by the 1st of january. 158 million americans would be affected. every household in the country would pay 3500 more in taxes in 2013. 88% of households would see their taxes rise. martha: even the white house is warning that the uncertainty of a potential tax hike could hurt american retail
speaker john boehner said he would prefer closing loopholes and tax deductions rather than raising rates. martha: thank you very much. bill: the budget negotiations with congressional leaders started a few weeks ago with president obama barack obama calling for $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue over the next decade. treasury secretary timothy geithner argues that you cannot raise enough revenue to reduce the deficit by only limited tax breaks as some republicans argue, some senior republican aides they say believe a likely compromise would generate about a trillion dollars in new tax revenue possibly by limiting the deductions. martha: part of this whole equation. any future spending cuts should come gradually warned the global economic watchdog so as not to derail the already weak recovery. the group predicts the economy will grow a bit next year but at a slower rate than originally thought. we are really in a very slow growth pattern. they are projecting 2% next year compared with 2.6% which was the forecast from a few months ago. that kind of gross does not get you up off the ma
moore, editorial board, good morning to you, steven. >> hi, good morning. >> john boehner is clear, he does not want to raise rates, he wants to give in if at all on deductions and write-offs saying they can essentially write off the same amount for the treasury, what should republicans do here? >> it's an interesting dilemma the republicans find themselves in, dave. most of them, as you know, have taken this no tax pledge, which is the pledge to voters that they won't raise taxes on anybody, and so, now president obama is saying we're going to raise the taxes on the rich and he won't sign any bill that doesn't have a tax increase on the rich, so, the two parties are still at logger heads. i personally think given the still fragility of this economic recovery, the economy still isn't sputtering on one cylinder now, and high unemployment. it doesn't make sense to me to raise taxes on businesses or investors. that's where we stand right now. i don't see an agreement anytime really soon because the two sides are still so far apart. >> i'm a betting man, steven, would you imagine that the
votes for something in the middle. it depends on whether john boehner is willing to risk his speakership to -- >> nancy pelosi will have a role too. one has the sense that the leaders of the parties have fear sequester and fear going over the cliff. they don't want it even as members in their parties are starting to talk more about sequester as actually a way out and a way out that puts the other side on the david petraeus. >> meanwhile, maybe they should watch the movie before they make the deal. >> that's what i wrote that the president had the screening of "lincoln" at the white house which i was not at but should have a regular 4:00 showing and everybody should come down, sit in the nice sits, eat the popcorn and recognize a few things from the president's point of view that nice words and lofty speeches, gettysburg address are wonderful but we also need sort of hard-headed a little bit sleazy deal-making lobbying to go along. >> movies that -- >> wonderful. >> to go along with it and from the point of view of congress, that congress can rise above itself, can rise above partisanship
with house speaker john boehner, and they talked about a great phone cal, courteous phone call, they say, but that aides talked about how each side talked about the importance of not making all these public statements so that each side could have room to negotiate. if there's movement being made, we don't know that yet. athena jones, thank you very much. >> coming up in about ten minutes your brain on the fiscal cliff. don't worry. there is a cure. >>> speaking of a whole lot of money, the powerball jackpot is now the largest many the game's history. an estimated $425 million. even though no one won last night's jackpot, people in eight states won $1 million prizes for matching five numbers. the winning numbers were 22, 32, 37, 44, 50, and the powerball was 34. it was the 15th drawing in a row with no jackpot winner. the next drawing wednesday night. >>> clashes on the streets in egypt. anti-government protests sparking outside the capital. now a call for millions to take part. we are live in cairo. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet.
, john boehner, and senator reid, and mcconnell. what is on the table, i think this week you see more republicans saying, you know, we will not hold to the grover norquist idea, the man who says that everybody who is a republican has to sign a "no tax increase" pledge. >> chris: in fact they've already signed it. >> in some cases but this week you had people like saxby chambliss, joining people like your guest this morning, john mccain, tom coburn and others and 12 members of the house, saying, republicans have to be willing to compromise. we did not win, clearly, this election, and the president is back in office, you have to make some kind of deal and so the president's side, he needs to deal, too. and sometimes it doesn't get attention from the press but you heard nancy pelosi and harry reid saying they expect a deal along with charlie rangel before the december 31 deadline and the unions are on the air saying, don't cut our programs badly and the republican side, both sides are under pressure for a deal, right now and they will make it. >> chris: well, that is an optimistic view.
's talk raw numbers here. at the end of the day you have to find 218 house members. and in the past john boehner has said and, oh, by the way, his election is after the fiscal cliff. that happens a couple days after the fiscal cliff. so all of this maneuvering is complicated. to get to 218 he has said he wants a majority of the majority, which is approximately 120 republicans, so then you have to find some nearly 100 democrats to do this as well, and if that has social security and medicare in it, can it happen? >> you are not going to have a deal that only has taxes and doesn't do anything about entitlements. that's not acceptable even no those who indicated they would defy the mythical grover norquist. so maybe not social security but medicare and medicaid, it's hard to believe you don't have a deal that includes those as well. what do we have in a compromise? no one is happy with it and everyone thinks it's important enough to go ahead and do. >> brad, very quickly, will boehner be willing to go to the floor without the majority? >> i think boehner will negotiate the best deal he can
on democrats to give away the store here. >> gloria, didn't the president when he tried that deal with john boehner that didn't work out, didn't he agree to significant cuts in medicare? >> he did. there were almost there once before. there are different stories about who moves the goalposts in that negotiation. if i were the president and i were going to van, i would say, look, this president has an opportunity right now to shape the future of american budgets. the blueprint for the american economy and for american spending priorities for a decade to come in this particular deal. if i were the president, i would say, look, it's not going to be perfect, but we really do have an opportunity here. i have an opportunity as president. united states to lead this country into fiscal solvency if each side gives a little bit. >> let me speak up for van -- >> van, hold on a second. i want ross to wrap it up. >> well, i was just going to say i disagree completely with van on the policy. i think over the long run if you look at the growth rate in medicare and the fact that every year that you don't c
made over the weekend between president obama and house speaker john boehner so there hasn't been a lot of concrete progress, but there is total progress in terms of the mood that members take into this. over the weekend we heard republican senators, as you alluded to, larry, breaking the so-called grover norquist pledge against raising taxes and white house press secretary jay carney reacted positively. >> some of the comments you mentioned are welcome, and they represent what we hope is a difference in tone and approach to these problems and a recognition that a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach. it's the one that's most beneficial for our economy. >> reporter: larry, what i would say is tax increases does not necessarily, despite the rhetoric on both sides, and especially from democrats, does not necessarily have to mean increases in tax rates. it is possible, if you look at the estate tax, if you look at the treatment of dividends, capital gains and carried interest and take a look at loopholes and deductions to raise a significant amount of revenue from p
, when he tried that deal with john boehner, he didn't he agree to significant cuts in medicare? >> yeah, he did. they were almost there once before. and there are different stories about who moves a goal post in that negotiation, but i would argue. if i were the president and i were going to van, i would say, look, this president has an opportunity right now to shape the future of american budgets, the blueprint for the american economy, and for american spending priorities for a decade to come. in this particular deal. and so if i were the president, i would say, look, it's not going to be perfect, but we really do have an opportunity here, and i have an opportunity as president of the united states to lead this country into fiscal solvency again. if each side -- we can't get what's perfect. >> but let me speak up for van. >> hold on a second, i want ross to wrap it up. >> well, i was going to say, i think i disagree completely with van on the policy, i think over the long run, if you look at the growth rate in medicare and the fact that every year you don't change social security, it
are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senators lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, congressman peter king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that
public pressure on republicans to support his plan. how speaker john boehner is pushing back. today his office released a statement saying the target of the president's rally should be the congressional democrats who want to raise tax rates on small businesses rather than cut spending. the white house in the meantime defends the public campaign and told chuck todd within the last hour it's doing all it can to strike a deal as soon as possible. >> isn't everybody just killing time until the deadline comes? >> no. it doesn't seem like killing time to me, chuck. >> it's the final week and the jet fumes and people get out of school and people will hammer it out? >> he has not waited for people to start smelling the jet fuels at a national airport. he's active ly put forward a plan. >> another issue, how to get to the 218 votes needed to get a deal through the house if both parties are claiming a mandate. here's the challenge aaccording to our first read team. take a look. 205 house republican incumbents ran for re-election. 93% of them won. what's more, 117 of them won by getting at least 6
a structural deficit approaching a trillion dollars a year which is why i think even john boehner when he sits down, smart guy says i acknowledge we've got to do something on the revenue side. that's where i think grover norquist, not to make him the lightning rod is in a tight bientd because the numbers don't add up. that's where your argue really falls apart. >> i guess what i'm presenting more is the political picture that it's going to be -- not withstanding the assertion that it is 15% of gdp. where it should wind up, you can find a lot of conservatives who would say 15% of gdp is too much anyway but that's a separate argument. what i'm saying is politically it will be very, very tough on those republicans, other than the current ones who have announced they have sort of abandoned the pledge. these guys were doing it for the last couple of years anyway to. see the leadership in the republican house do it, they may wind up some challenges. the republican party in the house is used to having a coup d'etat. >> eliot: as a d
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